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Post by theblog on Feb 2, 2004 18:07:33 GMT -5
Please make sure you also read my last post too. Its the last one on the page before this. Ok... 'improved-fly vr 3' is here!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D This version has a brain that will direct them torwards other flys (food is disabled right now ) If you install it you can acually see them going closer together. Note: It may take you a while to notice the difference but trust me they ARE ALOT closer toghther. It can be found at the same site as vr 2 was. Next will come breeding that should be eazy. then the genes so get those sugestions in fast!!. then I will perfect it (it needs alot of perfecting eg. I had to disable the 'die of old age' part because I had the length of time for them to live all wrong and they were dying instantly lol)
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Post by Ambershee on Feb 3, 2004 7:13:53 GMT -5
One word;
Groovy
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Post by Skarsnik on Feb 3, 2004 17:11:03 GMT -5
Yep. The flying-closer-together thing really helps create more of a 'swarm'
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Post by theblog on Feb 3, 2004 19:22:49 GMT -5
ok I made vr 3.8 im not going to post it because visably there arn't a lot of differences. I have one major bug which is that THEY DON"T BREED i have no idea why.. (obviously because other wise i'd be able to fix them ) All the breeding stuff is set up. there should be a couple of 'genes' so far: speed (both sideways and upanddown), life span, how often potential 'breeds' are sucesses, and how long they have to wait between breeding, I have no way of knowing weither these work because the flys WONT BREED ARGH!!!! I fixed the bug which caused the flys to instantly die when injected when i didn't have the 'die of old age' part deactivated. (It was a residue of my testing the 'death' script. i left in a command in the install script that set the flys age to 0 (this is when it dies) DUH how come i didn't see this when i was looking so hard for this sort of thing?) plz ignore me while i vent my anger.. ARGH WHY WON"T THEY BREED ARGH WHY WON"T THEY BREED ARGH WHY WON"T THEY BREED ARGH WHY WON"T THEY BREED ARGH WHY WON"T THEY BREED ARGH WHY WON"T THEY BREED..... sry... I also fixed a bug which was partially (well mostly really) blocking the fly's abbility to fly up and down. (I thoght it was odd that they flew accross the screen so much) I perfected the 'brain', it couldn't 'see' things that were more then like 2cm on the screen away from it, now it can see most of the length of the DS comunication's room (but not through solid walls or objects ) I added a couple of lines to help prevent those anoying times when the flys would get suck in one place for a bit. Here is a funny quote from the CAOS documantation...
[glow=red,2,300]MOWS[/glow] (integer) Returns whether the lawn was cut last Sunday or not.
after some experamentation i have discover that this command ALLWAYS says that the lawn was not mowed last sunday. Good thing its winter where i am so I can't be made to mow the lawn
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Post by Ambershee on Feb 4, 2004 5:32:13 GMT -5
lol, good stuff once more. What's wrong with the breed code does anyone have any ideas? Also, are there any life stages included with these guys? If not - why not? We should ideally implement them for terms of amusement and realism ;D Then naturally we can go thru the code again later and make these things dependent on certain natural variables such as the existence of certain chemical agents and non organic variables. The more little niches we get done the more impressive the project becomes
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Post by theblog on Feb 4, 2004 15:31:56 GMT -5
Too true as of yet the fly's don't have sexes or life stages but this is mostly because there hasn't been much point in putting this sort of thing in when we only have the enough picture's in our picture file to have 'flys flying right' and 'flys flying left'. If we want these srots of things we will need LOTS more pictures. For different life stages you guys could just scale the size of the fly down but for male/female we would need a whole new set of pictures. Im not saying its impossible but from my point of view all the pictures that have been made so far over the longish course of the biodome project is the fly and the spray and some (really nice) banners and the two corals (and maby the clouds for the spray?). Anyways this appears quite slow so mabey I should start helping with this sort of thing too or we should advertise on A2K for some 'drawers' (sry thats quite a crude term, I can just imagine being called a 'CAOSer' or something) too. PS: Last night I passed the "improved-fly vr 3.8" on to liamala but he hasn't posted it on his site (argh i was hopeing to work on it). so I will work on the pesticide even though I don't have the sprite (some one plz e-mail it to me there are no links to it on the forum) I just hope It will work
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Post by Ambershee on Feb 4, 2004 16:52:25 GMT -5
Can't we just call them artists? ;D You don't need to have different sexes for the flies to reproduce - perhaps you just need two flies as they represent both sexes of their species, as I believe flies do in actual fact (though wouldn't know). there are no male and female flies in my experience Well, with notable exceptions with things like bees and dragonflies, but still
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Post by theblog on Feb 4, 2004 20:57:20 GMT -5
PSPS: (PS is 'post script' which meens after the writing so the second post script is the 'post script post script' or the writing after the writing) anyways...
Artists is good. Should we advertise or not? If so they one of use with the 'wisest' account should do it because it would look better. I am offended because I am only considered a 'Young Norn' (2 stars) The flys should need pairs to breed (that would be a do only as far as I know none of that stuff works yet) Still variations in the images of the different sexes of flys would make the dome look more 'real' (ok so you acn't tell in 'real' life but still..)
I didn't do a lot of work on biodome stuff today. the pesticide vr 1 is posted on my site, it has a major bug that causes the 'mini death clouds' to not mature into 'adult death clouds' (they start off small and concentrated when the are 'ejected' from the sprayer) probably won't be too hard to fix I didn't spend very long. The clouds don't kill flys yet but that will only take 2 seconds to add in (I figgured it all out before hand)
My major accomplishment of the day was: "The ADVANCED CAOS Command Line" bascially while I am debuging things I end up typing "bg: poll" ALOT so I added a feature to the command line tool that allows you to repeat the command you last entered LOTS less work for us developers I have posted this on my site too.
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Post by -AJ- on Feb 5, 2004 5:33:06 GMT -5
Smeams like things is going quite well here Except for the background, I've been working with thouse... eh... furry thingies...: www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/pet_keeper/furries.jpgCut in: www.angelfire.com/pokemon2/pet_keeper/furries2.jpgI've been quite concerned about what Liam said about my sprites, that they don't look 3D enouth. What should we do about htis? I mean, the entire Bio-dome looks like this right now, and I'm not in mod to work with something for hours and hours (the Bio-dome itself that's far away from compleated has taken... I don't know, but maybe 30 hours) that don't even look quite all right in the end Kind of waste of time... Any ideas? Makeing baby sprites and female/male sprites for the fly is easy like a cake, shouldn't take more then 2 hours. This is becuse I have all the origlinal stuff that only would need some editing like recolor and resizeing... Maybe some egg and/or larva sprites too? I've not been able to cheak out the fly, I don't know how to insert all thouse confusing codes I will probally keep this slow speed when it comes to creating sprites, maybe we will need more artists? Also, I can't download that 3D program, I have a 56kb modem... Maybe it lays around one of all these demo CDs we have at home....
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Post by Liam on Feb 5, 2004 16:19:43 GMT -5
Hiya! i've just modified the sprites for the fly, so they now look more 3d and I've added an egg sprite. All I did to the fly is use the lighting tool in PSP 7, and now they look more 3d. I also finished another coral. Both of these are available from my site.btw, AJ, if you want, send me the backround , and I'll see what I can do.
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Post by theblog on Feb 5, 2004 18:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by Liam on Feb 6, 2004 20:46:23 GMT -5
Thats alright, you don't have to do something -every- day. Well, I did clean up the comments in vr. 3.8, so that its now vr. 3.9 Its a little bit more easier to understand now. You are a bit too cryptic bloggie. I'll put it on my wesite asap
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Post by theblog on Feb 7, 2004 14:47:07 GMT -5
what are the uses of the other pictures susposed to be? the eggs are obvious . If the squished fly pictures are so that the flys can fly futher away and closer to the camera then you will need to make a second picture for each of them with the wings in the other position so that we can still animate it PS: liamlala sry to saythis but there appears to be something wrong with the 'brain' or the 'movement' parts of vr 3.9, if you inject them and watch them fly it is VERY obvious that they aren't going anywhere as they just keep moving in the direction they started in. May i sugest that we move back to 3.8 because this problem does not appear to be occuring there. PPS:I worked on vr 3.8, It now injects some 'eggs' which hatch and turn in to flys. The breeding script still doen't work. vr 4 is posted on www.freewebs.com/the_blog/ then go to the 'developers page.
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Post by Liam on Feb 7, 2004 23:29:01 GMT -5
Strange....I didn't edit any of it except for the comments....Oh, doesn't matter.
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Post by -AJ- on Feb 8, 2004 15:18:49 GMT -5
Ih. Can't get any of these files to work I would like to see what the flies look like... The background is far away from completed, would you like me to send it anyway Liamlala?
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